When The Magic Stops
Hey people, Toolsman here and it’s time to get our dialogue on. Today, I’m putting up a slightly modified version of a throwback Blog jacking Friday post based on recent developments and I have some burning questions at the end so please help out.
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I came across a debate online sometime ago about women wanting simple things, which we men often can’t provide. When most women are asked what it is they look for in men, the answer almost always goes something like, … I just want a real man; caring, affectionate, financially stable and of course, good looking.
Well, I agree with that answer. Truth is it’s similar to the response expected from guys. However, upon closer examination, I singled out the term “real man”. Yes. What exactly do they mean by that. I ask this question because turning the tables and taking the literal meaning, the term “real woman” means something completely different nowadays.
The word ‘real’ is defined as: something actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed in the dictionary but maybe that’s too broad. For the purpose of this write up, I shall narrow my scope to looks. I was on Twitter last night when a debate broke out due to a certain OAP’s avatar. I took note of some of the comments passed especially by the women and for a second, I wondered, women expect us men to be honest but can we say the same for how some of them present themselves to us? Their words may be true but that’s where it stops. Eyes, hair, body e.t.c. Some women go to great lengths to create an alternate version of themselves. It’s gotten to the point where men (and even other women) have to openly question if a woman is “real or not.”
But this brings me to why I’m here today. Why are women doing this? Is there a belief that this is what a man wants? Or are they simply attempting to mask their own insecurities? One thing’s sure; the more I talk to other men about this, the more I notice the growing displeasure with this alarming upward trend of “fake” women. Before you bite me, let me state, like I always do, that I’m not a cave man and I’m all for women getting dulled up to look nicer. Lip gloss – brilliant. Lipstick – sexy. (Or should I say, can be sexy). Hair extensions, nails e.t.c but as with most things in life, there’s that line (however thin) between just enough and excessive.
If you say it’s just about masking insecurities then I just wonder what business women like Beyonce have with butt pads, I mean insecurity isn’t a word most of us would come up with when Beyonce’s name gets mentioned. Then again, I guess with celebs, you can’t really say…
Before we get into the debate, I’d just like to state that what really gets to me is when we see videos like the one I have below, where women who deal in these ‘body enhancers’ are propped as ‘modern day super heroes’ saving lives and what not.
(Sidebar: Am I the one one who didn’t really notice any difference in the before and after shots? )
But the pressing questions is are they really saving lives, relationships, marriages? I mean if they are then we won’t have people come up with songs/videos like this:
Anyway, whatever the reason is behind your decision to ‘artificially’ enhance your body, it’s your reason and I’m not attacking your hustle today. What I really want to know is ‘what happens at the end of the magic show?’ So you’ve rocked your awesome body at the event, you bagged yourself a Twitter Celeb, heck, a Nollywood star and then you come back home and hit the sack and VIOLA… what happens then? And to the guys reading this, I’d like to read some personal experiences, have you even been in a situation where you got a chic in bed and she turned out to be someone else? How did it make you feel or how do you think it will make you feel if it ever happens? You know the drill, use the comment box and speak your mind. Cheers.
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First!
Damn you young man…
Beaten on your own post? This should not happen again…
Nah.. I only let him think he beat me :|
*Singing:
Dats the way ahn ahn x 2ce
I like it
Ahn Ahn*
First :)
First????
last :-(
Appaz I was third…I can live wit dat..
Bk 2 bizness…I would love to kno how u guys deal wit dat..dollin up once in a Yle is thrilling but wen u r dolled up round d clock..it starts to feel like without d works u can't exist…& dats just sad.
Let me break the already broken record and say that All men who really love their women love them in their most natural forms; when they're just waking up, when they're just coming out the shower, immediately after a steamy sweaty round of sex with your T-shirt on…none of that plastic stuff flies in an intimate relationship.
I have been with girls whose beauty could be found on my white shirt after a hug. I'm not joking.
You hug me as Kim K, and you leave looking like Jason ate Freddie and Smiggle. Not funny.
I'm probably just repeating what Tula said in the post, but really, how long can the facade last? You spend meaningful hours every day getting your Jabbawockee on, and at the end of the show you'll still remove the mask. So what's the point?
I haven't made any point so lemme make one; if you're fearfully made like me, stay indoors. :)
T.
hahahaha… phooool.. Interesting point tho..
"You spend meaningful hours every day getting your Jabbawockee on,….." lol!!! *rolling*
I don't understand.
Lwkm…trust Terdoo to crack me up!
*erects canopy, arranges chairs*
At the end of the magic show, they go back home and put on hair net na, and rub bleaSHing cream.
It alarming these days how people go to great lengths to get 'DOLLED UP' . The craziest of them are those that 'borrow' a lot of these things just to look nice…
In my opinion , LESS is always MORE.
I think that guys should already be able to tell the difference between 'fake' & 'Real' and stop Complaining.
Oh, we can tell the difference all right. It's just that the Zombie barbies are taking over the world and some of us really need to get laid.
truly, less might just always mean more
Destiny's Child – Independent. (2011 version)
The weave on my head..I bought it, The fake eyelashes…I bought it, Theee booty pads on my cheeks…I bought it cos I depend on ( *Beyonce scream*) I DEPEND ON MEEEE
Make una throw una hands up oooo so we can identify una.
U guys are all talk! I've sat with numerous guys and they say the same thing about liking natural women and just as we are speaking eye-trail missy who walks by looking like a cross btw dolly parton n barbie!
I'm a natural girl by all standards, nothing artificial and quite pretty too yet, my friends who stay doing the most wit fake stuff get all the attention and yes, I hv an excellent attitude!
So abeg save it! U guys don't even know of what u speak! Most of y'all don't know what fake and real is! The penis is ur most reliable judge! If it hops as she passes by, then she is the one!
i wish i could quadriple like this! hahahahahahaha…but oh so true. & i ain't knockin the male opinion cos y'all have a point.
this is just SO funny! :))
Au contraire my love, don't be misguided. We know what what we speak of.
There's a feeling you feel when you wake up next to a girl, and you just want to keep that moment and preserve it forever. -___-
There's also the mini heart-attack you experience when you wake up next to Bin Laden and you rush to the toilet to throw a towel over the bathroom mirror to protect it from imminent destruction.
Yes, we think with our penises, but when the nut's out of the way, we know what we want. We know exactly what we want.
Thank you again Terdoh. This is one of the biggest mistakes women out there make. Contrary to what y'all think, MEN KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT!!! all the time too.
You'll probably say I'm wrong because you know a lot of guys who'll swear their allegiance to #TeamBooty and all their ex's will be flat backs.. Yes, well, you know what, take a proper look, dude probably got all of them free or ended up with them for some other reason. Heck, he might even get married to a flat assed chic and then you'll wonder why he's cheating with Miss Onion Booty on the side.. simple.. he knows what he wants.
I can't say same for women though but that's not why we are here today…
Aunty calm down. No one here is saying we want you to leave your hair extensions and go all Shuku or patewo on us. Read the part where I said I’m not a cave man and from the comments from other guys here, you can tell they aren’t too. Yes we will get attracted to you if you look good, dolled up or not but the point of this post/discussion is to ask those who go overboard what they stand to benefit from it.
Maybe by overboard I’m referring to the butt pads and body magic suits.. I’ll still pick cosmetic surgeries over those because at least they are permanent. What I’m saying is, why would you use butt pads to attract a guy when you know you’ll end up in bed together. What happens then? You think he’ll forgive you and just move on? Is that it?
the chick wit the butt pad knows what she is getting into and of course no guy would be happy with that and she knows. She wants the attention for that brief moment and trust me, you will give it to her until you discover the truth. I see no wrong in cosmetic surgery as far as it is not excessive and properly done. I like seeing beautiful things around me.
Your points are based on women doing this to get the attention of men and get them into their beds…which is not always the case.
Looking good and loosing all that weight takes a lot of effort. Its nice to go out and feel beautiful without having people starring and thinking 'eww..look at all that fat'. There's nothing attractive about fat, so if there's some way to suck it in and give you an ego boost, why not invest in it.
I agree that my point was directed at the women you described but then again, are you saying you'd rather encourage people to invest in something so temporary just to put their 'self esteem' in check rather than maybe investing in a diet or a work out plan?
Nope!! I definitely wont encourage it…just saying I see a valid reason. No one likes an Estelle or a Precious
Ha! I take offense for Estelle.. At least she presents herself at 'face-value' … ok ok.. just kidding.. I get your point..
most women are more interested in the attention they'll get from a lot of men when they get that butt pad on and forget about the one guy that'll take them home and take it off. One thing i've come to learn about women? they love to win the little battles, you can have the war if you want.
on-friggin-point! Most guys dnt knw wat dey want. i'm an au naturel too. we hardly get the attention. Miss "glamed up" gets all d good stuff
Well…truth be told, some people actually do need augmentation. It's when it is excessive that it becomes grotesque. So wear ur make-up but please apply good sense. And too much of anything can't be good. And don't shave off ur whole eyebrow and draw it back. :D
@Drpeperempe (Y). End of discussion.
Look! Drpeperempe, you've said it all. Most of these dudes just make a lot of noise. They'd still go for dolled up and presentable anyday. Anything to show off that they have a beautiful woman.
By all standards, I'm not an ugly girl, but I know people in school who always get mad at me when I'm rocking my fro with no make-up on. They tell me I look like I'm in high school. And they're mostly boys.
I don't care though, I act according to my mood. If I want to be dolled up, fine, if not, natural all the way.
I'm not saying you should be dolled up all the time, but boys need to stop complaining about every thing. If she's pretty with make-up only be thankful at least you can still take her out. If she's pretty without make-up be thankful still.
The only time you have the right to complain is if she's horrible looking with or without. EndOf.
Terdoh….you manage to crack me up all the time. 'wake up next to bin laden….' buhaha.
But drpeperempe has said it all. Guys want barbie dolls, and some girls are ready to give it to them, blonde extensions, blue contacts and all. *shrugs* The choice is yours. :)
Sorry but I really don't believe she has said it all… no guy wants to get with a village chic (ok, maybe some).. thats not the argument here. The question is why would you go all out to pull a scam you know their a realistic end to? Once the clothes come off, the pads and suits come off too… what happens then?
wat hapns next? u do the doo-doo. reali, wat does it mata if the butt or boobs r large? tot d "focal point" was the aim of the game
Are you talking about body suits or makeup?
Are you talking about extensions or pink hair?
Are you talking about plastic surgery or pushup bras?
Are you talking about self esteem or physical attractiveness?
Are you talking about marriage or dating?
Are you talking about sex or random hook-ups?
Because every single one of these have different criteria, and different arguments, and different functions. So, neither you nor terdoh can pretend it's that easy to sum it all up.
Your post makes a superficial point but your replies claim depth. Clarify, and re-present your case.
i'm not even going to add anything….terdoh's made all d points alredy… nigga's gotta get laid so…
EOD
AMEN!
Got any non-Nicki Minajs to surrender to a brother?
Truth be told, you can't satisfy these men. They make noise about women and their 'fake' everything but 97% of them would never look at the natural girl with a 'fro.
Even Musiq Soulchild with his badly crossed eyes wouldn't date India Arie and she was in love with him!
Ladies, do what you like as long as it isn't excessive. And as long as it's your money. Please don't be one of those stupid girls who ask guys for money to do their hair/nails/etc. That's another topic for another day.
I laugh in Chinese at all these guys sef……many of them are a 4 at the most……(yeah I said it)
DO I HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT FOR Y'ALL.
NO ONE IS SAYING YOU SHOULD ROCK A 'FRO.
WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHY YOU GOTTA LIE?
I can excuse make up and hair and stuff, it's making most of WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. But wasap with butt pads and body magic. What happens when I see the real thing?
I have too much junk in my trunk to pad my ass/hips. I don't even wear padded bras unless I'm trying to control the nipples. I don't own body magic, I suck belle instead (while I plan my work out plan)
Can't speak for the girls who do.
But it's the same with guys who brag about "size" or "staying power". I have not met one guy who hasn't claimed to be "a bedroom god"
Ladies, has any dude ever said to u…."Truth be told, I'm a 5 minute man and I have a 4 inch pecker…" and he was serious?
We all lie. Somehow, someway……we all lie or alter the truth
How can you say it's the same.There's a huge difference when someone looks at you and lies to your face an when someone goes out of her was to achieve misconception based on how she dresses..both lies.. but totally different..
This is the comment I was waiting for.
I once heard that a man is never ugly. And his personality is all that matters. -_____-
Bullshit.
So here, I agree with you. If the guy looks like a cross between a British Bulldog and John McCain, you are allowed by law to be (as ugly and) as dolled up as you want. Nobody will even give you face.
But if you're a -2/10 you can't be complaining when guys make excuses to chase you out of the apartment early Saturday morning. What the heck were you doing out in public in the first place?
All is fair in love and war.
buhahahahaha…
its funny when you go to sleep with a sexy woman with full brown eyebrows and the next morning, her brow is just this very smooth surface and she looks like a plucked bird. hahahahaha. Believe me, i've not had a stitch of makeup on for over 2weeks cuz a fortnight ago, i woke up in the morning freshfaced, took a shot, made my face up, took another shot, and with photoeditor, i did a before and after pic and the difference was so clear i got scared. i'm afraid my future husband will wake up beside me the day after our wedding and say who is this ugly stranger? So he had better start seeing the real me and learn to accept her. First day at work, everyone asked if i was ill. Now they've stopped asking.
Buahahahaha! "Are you ill? You're looking a bit ugly".
I just can't!
LOL… So u wugly?
I'm cute and look like a teenager when i'm freshfaced but beautiful and glamorous when i wear makeup and all the hair extentions. Sadly, beautiful attracts :(
I still stand by my argument! If y'all want natural and what do u call it, why is it that you trip over the girls with hair extensions and bla bla? As black folk, does our hair grow long, flowing and straight?
Are my nails naturally blue, green etc? Those are medically pathologic colours!
I haven't said don't go for what you want. Go for dolled up girls but don't blame said girls if they also go for what they want which is material stuff! Something's gotta give!
Twitter: @Drpeperempe
I can see you're doing this purposely. Why are you evading the question?
"NO ONE IS SAYING YOU SHOULD ROCK A ‘FRO.
WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS WHY YOU GOTTA LIE?
I can excuse make up and hair and stuff, it’s making most of WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. But wasap with butt pads and body magic. What happens when I see the real thing?"
Conversely Dr Mrs Peperempe, what would you do, when you wake up after the magic show & find out everything you thought was his wasn't; the Pad, the job, the Wheels, the Job, Gifts, Gadgets et al, all borrowed for your coaxing (dis)pleasure & now he's in his raw broke natural state.
In Summary: Men Lie, Women Lie.
Uncle Toolsman, we are not avoiding your question.
Most of us don't use body magic or buttpads. Just so you know those things are rather expensive. Body magic goes for at least 25000 naira.
In anycase I don't have a problem with people who use it. And no man should except his Dick is big. If its not… :x
OMG… this is the height of it… so do you see guys going about wearing cups or in anyway "physically" giving wrong impressions about the size of their members?
BTW, if you cant comment about bodymagic or butt pads, how about padded bras?
Padded bras… I want to fill up the dress I'm wearing noni. I don't want to deceive anybody but it's just that the dress would look a lot nicer with a little cleavage that I don't possess.
See, people want to look nice when they wear certain clothes. It's not everytime people would like to wear a tee and jeans because that's the only thing the don't look ridiculous in? The change you get is very temporary… agreed, decietful… maybe but I just don't want to look like a pumped out amoeba at least for a fewe hours.
Guys be real. Just like Drpeperempe rightly stated, how many of you would date a babe with natural/virgin hair or the one with a sun burnt skin due to non usage of moisturizer or other body cream. If we should ask all of you to show your babes am sure 99.9% of your gfs would be as sophisticated as Beyonce.
We need to understand that this issue of women getting dulled up to look nicer is totally subjective. What you termed as just enough might be some else excessive. The point is to stick to what is your limit and stop judging others as excessive based on your own definition of enough.
As far as am concern, am not overly concern about the efforts a lady as taken to look good (either enough or excessive). The determinant factor is to look for who is beneath the facade. How intelligent, confident, open minded, kind and enthusiastic a lady is are the things to watch out for rather than judging her base on her big or small boobs, round or oval butt, flat of pronounced tummy.
Am sure most guys won't agree because am not sure i do too.
You've joined her and you evaded the question.
What would you do/how will you react when you get a chic to the room and she takes off her clothes and she goes from a size 10 to 12?
That is the question.
We are definitely not having any show, it ends there. I'd leave very disappointed and she forever remain shame faced. Shikena.
In fairness there's not that much difference between a 10 & 12. I don't forsee a problem here…
*aherm*
First off, Terdoo come and chop knuckle. You, kind sir, are a boss.
Now moving on. I've often said that I'm not attracted to women who wear excessive make-up, have hair and nail extensions, and all that BS. And as it stands, I've never dated anyone that wasn't, to a high extent, team natural. So, agreeing with Terdoo, men usually know what they want, and stick to it.
I also have said that I don't find women with huge bums/boobs attractive. Once her breasts start leaving C cups and becoming D basins and above, I lose interest. I've dated & been intimate with girls with D's, but at the end of the day, it wasn't the size of the boobs that attracted me, and the girls knew that I wasn't thrilled about their huge breasts.
"I’ve sat with numerous guys and they say the same thing about liking natural women and just as we are speaking eye-trail missy who walks by looking like a cross btw dolly parton n barbie!"
This is actually true. But ladies, be not fooled. In my case, "Damn!!!" is a totally different thins from "I'd totally hit that."
And as usual, the point has been missed. The question wasn't about whether we like girls who get dolled up. The problem is that some women create apparitions. There's a difference between accentuating what you have (eg, wearing makeup and hair extensions) and creating an illusion of the existence of something that isn't there (eg, wearing pushup bras and butt pads that make you look like Pamela Anderson and then when they're taken off, you look like Keira Knightley)
Let me put it in perspective ladies, how would you feel if you got to a club, see this fly looking guy who just happens to be wearing well fitting pants that are fitting enough to show a bulge of his (apparently impressive) package, you get him to hit on you, take him home with dreams of him hitting your uterus, and then when he takes of his clothes, he takes off the groin packer he had ad turns out to be a WC? That's the question. That's how we feel.
I'm going back to work.
"There’s a difference between accentuating what you have (eg, wearing makeup and hair extensions) and creating an illusion of the existence of something that isn’t there"
GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Hair extensions are as fake as butt pads.
I'm sorry, but fake hair = creating an illusion of length/texture that isn't there. Same as creating an illusion of a bigger size that isn't there.
And then you say you prefer plastic surgery??
You say one thing and mean another – THIS is what all the other women on here are reacting to. Use makeup, but not too much. Use a weave, but not too long. Surgical silicone is okay, but foam isn't. Try, but not too hard. It is all subjective, and contrary.
Personally, I do not know what you reaction you are specifically trying to get out of this debate?
"Once her breasts start leaving C cups and becoming D basins and above, I lose interest. " – another myth I just HAVE 2 debunk. I'm a size 10 & a D cup. It's not as big as we all think. I was actually sure I was a B or a C & then I went for a bra fitting – at different stores! I'm a D, it is still small. I am sometimes very angry @ this but largely I'm 2 lazy 2 really care.
So in a nutshell, if u'r looking 4 big boobies aim 4 the Es & above. D ain't it…unless it 's on a size 0 – 6.
That's all nice and good. However, I'm more attracted to babes that're between size 4-8. And seriously, my favorite pair of boobs ever, were a B.
I'm not saying actual D's are huge to the common man. However, for me? They're big. If you remember, I wasn't talking about what my brothers want.
I think the reason why some babes 'doll up' is for acceptance and to belong to the sexy cadre, I believe it's low self esteem though but whatever works for them…..
Question: ‘what happens at the end of the magic show?
Answer: I'm female and honestly at the end of the magic show, its really not going to last.. Guys are attracted first by what they SEE! and ladies, what they HEAR. Now what Guys See determines what ladies will hear.
Most guys have physical preferences.. Yup.. SOme of my male friends love girls with ASS and some like the ones who are really bony and model like.. some of them like big girls (be it thick or whatever its called today).
So when you get out that butt pad, or body magic to look extra sexy and appealing and you catch his EYE… talk the whole talk and lets say, it ends in the bedroom… Girl!! Whatchu gonna do?
Now I am not saying this is the normal sequence of things.. but be ye not deceivers… if he indeed likes you, he would like your body and everything that makes you YOU I believe… so if the magic show ends, he is most likely to leave because he may not be able to stand the sight of whoever in question.
Body enhancements can make you feel good but at the end of the day, its not going to last forever and may even attract the wrong set of people.
Summarily.. at the end of the show, no one is gonna be happy…
Embrace who you are and your features…
I dont like this comment.. I LOVE it!!!!
Beautifully put…
Men lie and women lie, just about different things.
A guy will tell you anything you want to hear to make him mentally (conceptually) look good. Women put things on and pull things out to make them physically look good.
You can't compare butt pads to lying about your occupation, age or history.
At the end of the day, you find out the truth about a person and you stay or leave. Don't come out like its a one-way street and guys are being deceived. You know fake eyelashes when you see them. Come on, now.
Please, fake eyelashes can be seen. How do we know when she's wearing a pushup bra that's turned her from an A cup to a DD? Pray teach us oh.
Granted. Still, these are physical, easily discoverable things. The clothes will come off one day. Guys lie about who they are, and spend the rest of their lives trying to cover up or make it true. It's a completely different level.
Everyone lies about who they are.. you see girls who come off as "sisters" in church when we know thats not who they are.. but thats not the issue here.. we are talking about the physical stuff.. what we can see!!!
Boys have to become Clark Kent in this bitch.
The women who go overboard with everything: make-up, hair, body magic et al do so because they want lots of attention. And they get it so, it's fine.
I believe women dress, or should dress to attract the attention of their desired audience. Overboard is about getting all the heads to turn and typically bags superficial minded or horny dudes. So at the end of the day, it's fine if the guy's all in shock when everything comes off. If he can keep the soldier up though, he should just bang and move on to the next barbie or learn his lesson. -___-
PS: Tula I think it's ironic that you prefer life threatening permanent body enhancements to temporary ones you can throw off if you don't like. Except for professional prostitutes, models et al whose (near) nude bodies are up for public scrutiny, how many people are gonna have to "deal" with the actual bodies when these permanent enhancements are done?
In the end, fake is fake.
I don't PREFER them, I said, I can excuse them maybe when used discretely … and you are right.. fake is fake..
I'm sorry, I don't think Tula is advocating permanent enhancement. What he's saying is that, if you want to be seen like that, if it's so important, then just get it done. Be who you are, or upscale to who you want to be. All that, "now you see it, now you don't" is just really upsetting.
And what I'm saying is, it's not always that serious. Sometimes, who you are is determined by your temporary objective. Plus surgery is a very big deal, contrary to what Dr 90210 would have us believe. Also, it won't be so upsetting if you see things from another perspective, like costumes or a masked party? :D
"i believe women dress, or should dress to attract the attention of their desired audience. Overboard is about getting all the heads to turn and typically bags superficial minded or horny dudes. So at the end of the day, it’s fine if the guy’s all in shock when everything comes off. If he can keep the soldier up though, he should just bang and move on to the next barbie or learn his lesson. -___-"
End of discussion….shikena
Hmmmm….. That body magic thing is freaking uncomfortable and it doesn't reduce anything, infact, it adds more to d tummy area and it is noticeable when u wear it…but guys r always checking out the babe with d slim waistline,big ass, big boobs babe.so I expect them to know that all " na packaging" its how u guys want to see them, that's how they present themselves…..so don't complain…..
OK,so i tried really hard not to comment but i have to…………I agree with striking a balance, everything in moderation and never in excess. Most men of today are so shallow it is sad, no depth what so ever. If you see a lady who suffers from insecurities about her body, the man who led her there is never far off. Some women actually love to look like Zombie barbies, they feel comfortable that way and who are you to judge them.
Tula said "The question is why would you go all out to pull a scam" a scam really? This so called scam you are talking about applies both ways. Men are just as deceptive as women. Men who go around acting like "Mac Daddies" like they "PACKING" and then it's time to do the deed and "Lil Johnny is LITTLE"……….If i was a paying customer i;ll ask for my money back, scream wolf, 419…..
Personally i think it goes both ways, both sexes need to stop being judgmental about the other because we all do the same things, just differently. Some people call it "PACKAGING" You see a guy looking good, dressed very fashion forward, driving a decent car, he approaches you and he sounds decent as well, few dates and its going good, then one day he tells you that its all borrowed, and that his personality is REAL just not the material things……..O_O what do you call that???? FAKE or SCAM??.
It's all sad if you ask me, but blame it on society, media whatever but it is what it is…….
Excuse me.. but I repeat again: The only way a dude can deceive you about the size of his of his package is if you ask and he directly LIES to you.. VERBALLY.
Does the same thing apply here?
”Truth be told, I’m a 5 minute man and I have a 4 inch pecker…”. Buhahahahahahaha
*goes to get more popcorn*
LOL. The ladies here seem not to be getting the point. I believe every man that says they like natural-looking women say that so as not to feel scammed when they wake up to (or even undress) a different looking woman from the woman they took home. Like u think u r going home with a b-cup, only to undress her and see that there is even no cup there. *shrugs*
I believe with everything, there r levels, and while a complete transformation of the face using make up, or hair using whatever extensions, to look (more) beautiful is acceptable, doing any other thing to any other part of the body to modify its size or shape is questionable..
Thank you. *drops mic*
Let's not even talk about padded bras. Padded bras don't do so much, in fact they only push up the boobs. They don't change your boobs from an A to a C. Trust me I know. The best they can do is make an A cup look like a small B cup.
Erm.. I disagree.. I have witnessed this…
that 1 is not pad. they must've put a whole other breast in that mutha!!
those padded bras with actual silicon like pads in them…..THE WORSTEST!!!! *tears* betrayal at its peak…
Lol. That's not a pushup bra. that's a Wonderbra. Leaves you wondering where the rest of the breast went.
Is it any coincidence that the sweetest part of a Chic(ken) is the butt? I knew there was something magical about it, I just couldn't place my hands on it. Thanks to chics of these days tho, that won't be a problem anymore. Thing is tho, like the butt of a chicken, it can only keep you hooked for so long..
If y'all wanna get your butt and boobs padded, go right ahead. We'll (well, I'll ) know that u're doing it (not for me) but for those who get to look at u (afterall, I have seen d real thing)
So Tula, ladies who use this stuff ain't doing it for their partners but to maintain a 'look' in the eyes of the public. That being said babe, If you use body magic to catch me, you better make sure tha magic is permanent 'cos the way imma split when I realise it aint?… It'll be like magic.
Tsk tsk tsk…
I totally agree with this
You disagree?? That's the truth, except you want space inbetween your breasts and the bra, a padded bra can't make you a DD. Not from an A cup. What kinda bra is that?? Hian! I only wear padded bras (because they're the prettiest) and none of them are over enhancing. They just make the boobs look good.
#Word# Maybe its a wonderbra. buhahahahaha
Will I be able to tell there's space between the breast and the bra from far off?
Yes.. thats the point…
oh yes, u can tell. the boobs look funny, like they are about to drop!
I'm only gonna comment about padded bras. The basic point of a padded bra (for me) is to cover up my huge nipples wch are erect most times
(for reasons I cannot explain). Imagine walking around with ur nipples all over the place. Another reason is to make whatever
I'm wearing look better. Its not to create an "illusion" of boobs. D boobs ARE there!
why would you do such a horrible horrible thing…..*tears*
hey robyn, dey r like knobs..u just gotta learn 2 tweak em on n off..
Yo, yo, yo! hold up.
If ya create fake shit and make a nigga take ya ass home, sure he gon comply and best believe he gon fuck you, no doubt. Ya can even keep the lights out. but when the magic done disappeared, homeboy gon re-evaluate his decision yo. And if he dont like what he see, best believe yo ass gon bounce. Or just get fucked again from behind… forever. If ya ALWAYS get hit up doggy style…ya know wher ya stand – ugly fake ass skank ho.
Niggas lie about money and shit too though. Tryna look all rich and fancy when nigga cant really afford shit. And ladies gon re-evaluate when they find out too. Its da way da fucking world works. Deal with it.
In summary
1. Fake shit will get ya fucked (from behind)
2. Real shit will get ya kept and taken out in public
3. Niggas and bitches can both be fake about shit
Riley Out.
i hate the push-up bra. :|
U ever tried to feel a chick's boob thru her bra cups n feel the space b/w d bra n d breast?? that shit adds like an extra 2-cups abeg. Turned out her breast was not much bigger than mine sef. :(
I hate the push-up bra. :|
@Oga Arthur, thing is, women won't have to do all these things if it wasn't what guys wanted! If guys truly accepted women for who they were/are, you'll find there wld be less fraud on the streets by way of looks.
And that crap abt guys knowing what they want and going for it, save it. Guys I've dated have had me and still cheated with the road-side barbie with nothing but boobs, ass, make-up and hair. And as stated before I'm a pretty girl with a nice attitude.
What I think y'all mean is that you prefer girls who aren't overt with their looks/ enhancement(s) but to say you prefer natural, na lie abeg!
Erm.. and how are you sure these 'guys' you dated dont want the chics with boobs and ass instead of you?
Beyonce wears buttpads?? Tf?? :( :'( </3 *going off to cry*
sorry… now you know..
The World as we know it, is over.
O ga ju
abeg joor.. guys are either a boob man or an ass man..so why wouldnt the girl wanna increase the size in anyway. plus if the guy really cares for the babe knowing the truth shouldnt really matter, right?
sometimes wearing body magic makes the dress fit..you dont wanna be seeing no baby fat..
"if the guy really cares for the babe knowing the truth shouldnt really matter, right?"
Oh wow… wow.. it is finished..
With this comment, the rapture might as well just come now. Or tomorrow.
@Yetee "abeg joor.. guys are either a boob man or an ass man". If that is true, then i'm living a lie, cuz i'm an A cup and i have practically nonexistent bum. *crying inconsolably*
This is just..amusing. Maybe women use body-shapers because they know that there are certain standards of beauty that are generally held, and they don't fit the description. Truth is, a woman looking for external validation only needs you to look at her and whistle appreciatively. Maybe going home with you afterwards wasn't part of her master plan to turn heads in the club. Maybe that's why she wants to do it with the lights off. *chuckle*
We hear and see everyday, from men all around us, what they think is (and therefore is, if we're all honest) sexy, and what is not. We want to be that. And some of us want to be that so badly that we'll squeeze into uncomfortable shit to get a 'damn, girl!' We're probably not thinking beyond getting you to flirt with us.
Anybody else notice how I just paraphrased myself? Yeah, can't be bothered to delete it.
What's the point of this post anyway? If she's horrifyingly hideous after the fairy godmother's spell has worn off, send her home and whip out the lotion, abi? And if you can bone face and do it anyway, then power to you. May your erect penis not wince and curse you after. 90% of y'all will never take home a woman who goes to the extreme extent of Body Magic, anyway. And my sympathies to the 10% who will.
As for the amazing transforming power of hair, nails, eyelashes and make-up, and waking up next to The Grinch, LOL! Y'all niggas know some women be caking it on. We do it for you. Instead of being pissed that Cruela De Ville is in your bed scaring the sunrise away, be glad that your niggas saw you leave with Betty Boop. And do the crotch-grab to reassure yourself.
1. Did she have a nice wet vagina?
2. Did she give you an orgasm?
3. Can you avoid her forever after?
It's really not so complex, is it? The point of this dissertation? Shit happens. Deal with it.
Yo! Got a phone number or some shit like that?
Heysss.. respect your elders and step aside… Ehen .. so yes, got a number?
Haha! Love this.
haha.. interesting. Are you familiar with the uses and gratification or the spiral of silence theory? Over the past couple of months as I've written for this section of the site, I've noticed some trends that have helped to guide my premise development process. I like to think of the Wednesday Dialogue section as a sort of 'social experiment' section and some responses here will definitely thrill a psychologist.
I almost never comment on Wednesdays because I try not to influence the discussion. And the post, which serves as the premise is mostly always never conclusive or overly narrowed down so as not to encourage the spiral of silence. The uses and gratification bit is pretty very obvious from the comments with a lot of people (especially the ones I engaged) responding based on their traits and preferences.
The entire post could have been replaced with three statements or so… Definitely fake is fake and anyone who goes out of their way to use these products for whatever reason under whatever circumstances like the ones you highlighted above, should be ready to deal with the obvious consequences. But the post wouldn't have lead to so much of a dialogue if it had been presented that way. The footnote might ask some certain questions as a way to get people to answer "other questions" – call it agenda setting.
"What’s the point of this post anyway?"
All my grammar. One concise answer. :)
I'm going to bed now.
Yomah's right.. Padded/push up bra can't make an A cup DD.. It would look too fake and she would be uncomfortable.. Olivia in jerseylicious wears 2/3 bras bcos her boobs are small and she doesn't want plastic surgery.. She's not doing it for guys,but for herself.. Most girls don't actually do this things bcos of guys. Its for their self esteem and confidence.. And those that do it for guys,well they lack self esteem.. And some girls just wanna copy,do what evry oda girl is doing.. Bout the buttpads,its prolly to help d dress or their confidence ( a girl is allowed to dream yh?)..
And yeah,girls might not b doing it 4 their boos,but to feel good in public like sirkastiq said..
Get to know a chic before u knack :p plus boys could be fake too ( ._.)
@toolsman, then they should have gone for same. That in itself shows indecisiveness and insincerity of male folk.
85th. Or sumthng. ¯..(•͡.̮ •͡ )../¯
"Maybe by overboard I’m referring to the butt pads and body magic suits.. I’ll still pick cosmetic surgeries over those because at least they are permanent."
Surely this is the most ridiculous thing statement ever!!! wearing body-magic and butt-pads is going overboard but going under the knife is more reasonable. how does that even make sense. so the only thing u av against body-magic is that its temporary. If u as u claim, wat makes a diff to guys is not necessary looks or ass then why r u bothered that its fake or d only issue is dat u were deceived/fooled. I dont see any difference with bodymagic, make up, weaveon,piercings, tattoos, even wearing heels, they r just enhancers n it makes pple feel good about themselves. You said what u really want to know is ‘what happens at the end of the magic show?’ Well nothing happens after, u make it sound as if the aim of the magic show is to get someone into bed after, well its often not the case, and even if its that, when i remove my bodyagic and turn back into a size 12 and the guy forms outrage and refused to have sex then i walk away and try the ruse 4 d next man. Now we got silly gals from far n wide who i know for a fact wear push up bras n bodymagic but are forming naturally endowed and dissing toolz 4 wearing body magic. To each his own.
Calm your tities :|.. you picked that statement out of context.. I was using it to better clarify my question. and Yes, maybe I directed this post/the questions at the women whose sole purpose of enhancing their bodies is to "attract men"..
And thank you for answering it.
wat titties??? d ones dat iv enhanced wiv my water filled bra??? Guys (yes, u included) talk a good game. I would like to hear d story of a guy who refused to brap a babe cos she wore bodymagic or push up bra. Everyone is here just peddling false tales.
Yes.. those tities.. calm them one way or the other..
And you've just helped me make a vital point I was hoping someone would come up with..
Of course lying doesnt get in the way of sex.. oh hell nah… in fact some brother might fall so hard, they'll end up marrying these chics..
But my point is.. how long does it last?
And if women know the guy is only with them cause of the lies they told then why do they get all fussy when the dude strays?
@thetoolsman women who get 'fussy' when the dude strays are just being what they are… women. We lie to ourselves… a lot and sincerely speaking, I doubt that anything can be done about that. So even if you know the guy is with you because of your 'fakeness' you still tell urself the season for him being with you for your 'looks' has long gone and there's a lot more substance to it.
I have no issues with ladies wearing or using whatever they feel makes them beautiful and adored but the moment a lady get consumed by these things and she starts beleiving that she is incomplete without these things then I have a problem with it.
I once had a friend for the weekend and she was like she uses a particular soap called "Fair and White So White". She pleaded with me to help her get it at all cost. I just could not understand why she could not manage my own "Dettol Cool" and she thank her stars that I did not offer her "Okin".
Another clause I detest hearing from ladies, I am getting DARK. Arrrrrrgggghh!
Ladies lose their IDENTITY and call it fashion. This hurts so bad. We just have to keep loving them, they complete the circle of life. Dudes are at the top of the food chain. We really have nothing to lose. We cannot be bothered. Daarrrhhh.
Thanks to your comment i have nothing to say
Okin is still a nice alternative. u should have offered her Mojees or ST soap.
After all is said and done, I think Eve really fucked up by eating that apple.
:o :o Even Toolz too.. This my last carrying is annoying oh… That's why I love Tiwa Savage.. Au Naturelle (or something like that) ^.^
Nonsense Toolz kmt!
At the end,If the guy no wan do.. Na to commot remain.. What's my own? Its him konji would bury :D
I sincerely think this is over flogged! Toolsman asked what happens when *the real u is seen* will try and answer the question very simply! When u see that what u gushed at earlier isn't what is on the bed/room with u and u are sincerely turned off pls zip up and let ursef out!
Guys u all have issues! U see a Barbie and u go drooling after her cos at that moment what is in between ur thighs becomes a replacement for your head then at the end of the day, u come out and blurt* I like u better when u just come out from the bathroom or when u are sleeping! Pls quit double standards folks and be real for once. If a Barbie turns u on then a Barbie u shall have in the room and verse versa! *drops mic!
"Fair and white so white?" Dafuq?! LMAO!!!
Oh! It just hit me!!!
Do you know you can now actually "laugh your ass off" with butt pads? I dare say the originator of "LMAO" wore butt pads.
Oh wait! Do the guys in LMFAO…
Blow the Trumpet O Angel…
How wud u feel if u just spent money to purchase a "Gucci" Bag only to discover later that what u actually bought was a "Gussi". Disappointed? yeah. My point exactly
I once went home wif this gorgeous babe and the nite was blissful. I woke up the next morning to see ma grandma lying in ma bed like WTF! Babe was balding!! Weaves off, No hair!! That's Cheating!!!!!
I didn't freak out. Hell No.Just drove the b**ch outta ma house immediately.
@annie bless your soul. I am a D cup too and I think my boobs are pretty small. E is where shit starts.
LOL! I swear! I actually felt a li'l betrayed when I found out! hahaha
i’m an E and sometime F(depends on the shop) and I still look very much normal. A british 10 too. I guess at the end of the day, boobs looking big or not is dependent on size of owner and shape of the said boobs.
D.. small??? Do you want you chin coinciding with dem boobsies??? Bless you sisturr
I didn't say D was small I said it wasn't as big as everyone seems to think it is. In my original comment I said it's about context. D on a size 10 is pretty average. On a size 4 – 6 it'll probably be quite big & on a size 0 – 2 it'll obviously be massive.
Ok I have my own question. I think it's fair to say the point of this article is that body magic (which is designed to suck & tuck in all the lumps & bumps) is deception. Now a seductively designed & properly cut basque will do the exact same sucking & tuckin in & will also still keep the sexual attraction flaming hot when I take the outer layer of clothing off. So MY question is, is wearing THAT deception 2?
hell yeah!!!!
In that case we should probably stop wearing underwear altogether then, right?
Booty is in the eye of the beholder.
MzLoulette hit the nail right on the head for me.
One thing we can, or rather should agree on about both sexes is that women are more materialistic than men while the latter is more superficial than females.
I have no defence for butt pads, but for other body contour enhancers, I believe it's more about looking better and feeling more confident more than trying to bag a man.
On the other hand, we all know men can be really crude and insensitive especially when it comes to ladies. They are often quick to insult saggy boobs and inflated middle regions like it's a crime against nature. We see this everyday even on twitter with some men going as far as saying they can't be with anything below a D-cup or set Nicki Minaj's (unnatural by the way) ass as the yard stick for eligible backsides.
Men are incredibly very demanding of ladies, even the ones who look like what the devil chewed and spat out will be making tick list of how they want their women to look. To the ladies who can't meet these criteria, what are they to do? They wouldn't leave themselves in the cold, that's for sure. Instead, most will resort to vices that pander to these set standards even if it involves complete dishonesty. When it finally comes to the d-day, well, they'll each know where they stand.
The sad fact is that this doesn't look like it'll wane out soon. Not until our dear men become less judgemental, more understanding of the different shapes and sizes of women, and more accepting of their flaws. Maybe in a perfect world.
Thanks for this!
I really didn't want to get involved in this argument again. Its been overflogged and personally i think babes are missing the point. WE LOVE HOT CHICS, yes we agree…so we'll watch that 'ass' video and complain about how nicki minaj looks like a contraption of different body parts from black barbies yet we're attracted to her. *shoot me now*
The issue isn't attraction anymore, ur body magic, padded bras and butt pads will get you in his bed but lawd knows nothing is gonna keep you there when he sees that all that booty that u've been advertising for days, weeks and sometimes even months is fake. There shall be no follow-up encounter…(except maybe like terdoh, nigga just wants to bang).
so if perchance u're looking for a relationship…hell, maybe even a FWB do not…i repeat, DO NOT OVERDO IT. get ur nails done, get ur hair did, roll up in that hot black dress that makes u feel 18 again and overwhelm that nigga with ur God given awesomeness (i don't mean B.O). If he doesn't like you that way chances are it wouldn't have lasted anyways….
In summary,
i- Guys like nicki minaj, but apparently she's still single…
ii- A lot of girls hot without all that excess senrere but they're too insecure to try it…
iii- false advertising will get u in his bed but not his heart…(no, i didn't get that off a t-shirt)
iv- Body magic is of the DEVIL…be warned…
oya ngwanu bye bye…:D
Feck you niccuh. Feck you with a long ferk.
Nikki Minaj get bobo naa
Y'all r just playing 'round da round da village'. I just came here to say this I love Panda's comments. What's his handle #nolove?
@CapoeiraPanda
I haf died of laughter oh! its so cute reading the guys comments on fake boobs. trust me when you see real boobies,you gonna know from a distance. push up bras are so damn easy to detect,okay wait apologies I am a lady so its easy for me to detect,but I don't blame the ladies most guys are so concerned about size na. as for padded bra I wear them and I am a size 38D,but I wear them to protect my nipples,these babies smile at the slightest thing, not all padded bras are for enhancement!
yes o……padded bras for me arent for pushing anything anywhere…….. @36D u must be blind not to see d boobs. But they cover "charging' nipples.
and to all u clueless boys, they dont increase the bust size that much, its either u dont know what an A cup looks like.
Oh and they can make a girl feel very sexy for HERSELF not for some random guy.
and to the body magic issue, please if i want to wear a fitted dress and my tummy looks abit out of place……… ermmmmm do u want me to go out with a big drooping tummy cuz someone might want to pick me at the event!!!
This can't be what's deceptive on the outside now? What 'bout down there? "Fine" n well made up on the outside then you get down there and it's Hiroshima! :(
Mehnnnnnn! Fact is all fingers aren't equal so I can't blame d self conscious, oppressed girl who uses push up bras or buttpads. I however take offense to those who wipe off their eyebrows n replace em with eyeliner.
I see physically n mentally 'ugly' chicks using enhancements 2 meet up with the status quo and honestly; I luv d funfair parade. But when the magic ends and d push up bra goes off HIAN; enuff displeasure
You're all a bunch of jobless people… going of a matter as irrelevant as butt pad and padded bras.
I'd like to know the relevance of all of these.
Pervs
Good people of NakedConvosLand, abeg does this deception extend to using foundation to mask acne ravaged skin? (as always, i'm askin 4 a friend…;))
lol………..yes o
and concealer n the lots……. i mean tell ur "friend" to celebrate her spots 2d world
looooooooooooooooooooool! ah, there's trouble o! i teenk my 'friend' should get used to the idea that she might havta join a convent at this rate o. :( hehehehe
@ Capoeira Panda – That’s fair enough really. I was really talking generally, referring to 'we' & all cos honestly even I assumed a D cup was big. I was basically looking to clarify for the general populace that D cup is not big. I think the myth pained me more than I thought, as I write this I still feel conned. :-/ I might need therapy after all. :(
Phewwww…. A lot has been said.
Well I think what Toolsman said about going under the knife is you lose weight by exercising or you go under the knife to get a bigger butt or boobs or whatever.. Either way I AGREE.
Honestly, I have no problem with Body shapers but trust us(Nigerian) girls. We tend to abuse anything that comes our way. I vividly remember the craze of falselashes.
If u wear body magic when u go to the store,to beach to salon or to simply buy something at the aboki's down the road, you clearly have a problem.
I think what the guys are saying is this learn to love yourself the way you are.
I'm busty I have always been,my boyfriend knew from the word GO. He loves me like that and I love him too.
I have a slightly bulging lower tummy and I DON'T like it, i have realised that crunches alone don't work. I want to start walking every morning. I won't settle for body shaper why? It won't give me a lasting effect.
Women, girls and ladies are becoming more confused, insecure and pathetic.
No wonder men take advantage.
Truth is bitter…. Let's all listen once in a while.
Standing Ovation. And the curtain closes
lol lol lol. First time here and I'm hooked. Comments are hilarious. round of applause to @Drpeperempe
This really got people going!…..some girls/boys will definitely soon get a cane for misleading a guy/girl…LOL
At this rate, the plan for us will be to meet a guy/girl and just say it b4 it gets too personal!! For example…
*''i am actually an A cup not a D as the bra i am wearing makes me look – ladies'
*'I am not the owner of this car, i am actually just oga's driver – guys'
*' my waist is size 60' but the body magic i have on is making it 14 – ladies'
*'I only sing along to dbang's 'i'm so endowed' i'm actually NOT- guys'
see….that solves all the 'trick or treat' cases!!
Interesting read today.
If you need a piece of clothing or something to feel good about yourself,there's some insecurity lurking around,looking to be set free.
Sometimes,endowed ladies wear padded bras cos we don't wanna look down and see our nipples waving at us.
If I go home with a guy and when its time to shag he whips out something the size of my lipstick tube,I won't leave quietly.I'll let him know what part of hell he belongs to and which demons will be assigned to torture him :|
As for body magic,only people practising how to live a life of suffering should wear it.Shit's difficult to wear.My sis abandoned hers and took to the gym instead,she's lost more than bodymagic coulda concealed.
So there are men who like them 'athletic'? Where? Do these men only come out when there's a full moon?
Seriously tho, I know there are guys like that, but they are in the minority. Men like excess; exaggerated things. You really don't think women are going to start looking round the whole world for members of the 'minority group' to hook up with , do you? Its easier to conform to the general standard. The ones who are too stubborn or proud to do this usually end up alone. No one wants to be alone, so they will 'cheat' if they have to. The end justifies the means.
Why should guys even complain about all the fakeness going on sef when they're the same ones who repeatedly make fun of the A-cups and flat assed girls?
A while ago someone on twitter said something like 'now that agbalumo season is here o, A-cups can now rest". I'm ashamed to say that I had LOLed before I caught myself and realised i should'nt have.
As for pple not thinking about what would happen when all the enhancements , come off, the truth is most can't be bothered to think that far ahead. They'll cross that bridge when they get there. If pple thot about things like consequences and long-term results we wouldn't have half the problems there are in the world today.
Guys should stop the mocking, or at least reduce it (you can't ask pple not to have fun). Show a little depth yourselves and maybe, just maybe all this nonsense will stop.
Lmfao……..
we all be trippin…..
Well…interesting read! I'm all natural..I have always hated makeups,long artificial nails and what have we but then d dolled up babes get all d attention :( I guess I have to conform to d social standards n 'body' reforms accepted by our non-real men *sighs*
I have to align with the ladies today …
The CONTAINER needs to be attractive to be Interested.
The Interest in the container makes you want to know the CONTENT.
On knowing the CONTENT, the CONTAINER does not really matter.
At this point, you can preach the NO DOLLING gospel according to your own dictates. Loving a WOMAN with the same mental capacity is the best thing you can do for yourself, irrespective of the container, content is all that matters
but when the true endowment of the CONTENT lives up to the expectation set by the 'CONTAINER', the 'Staying Factor' almost surely quadruples, that's what we are insinuating.
#teamContinuity
Lol. Hilarity.
I know mehn. Thats the only word that describes this.
I am one of those who yab A cups…same as I yab everything else Including my now reducing pot belle n big ass. But I know what I want, and the lady who has my heart has less boobs than mine n has no ass wotsoeva. I mean she has just a very pointy nipple where boobs should be.
Make up n hair extensions ® meant to Augment what u have. When u go the way of butt pads n body magic, u had better be married of in a relationship so those concerned already know wotsup n wots d real deal.
I dislike falsehood in all forms.
Even d make up tinz sef n non medical contact lenses, some girls Ơ̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴͡ hideous once their off. If a guy appreciates who u really ®, he will stay…n I guess that wot d ladies want right? For him to come n stay.
For me…if u want to be fake, eida be married or in a functional relationship where ur partner knows wotsup. The world is on their own.
Arigato gosaimazu!
Really awsome blog
looking gud is gud bizness…but u gotta bring more dan ur looks 2 d table. and if dose looks r fake, aarrrgh! its worse! now of course u can n shud embellish urself 2 show ur finer aspects..dnt 4get dat ur character n personality matter. if you are a person of substance, you will stand the test of time and are indeed beautiful inside out…one
nice video are share on this site…………
i have a question though…..does it all have to be ALL physical when it comes to boy meets girl….dont get me wrong, attraction is a factor but i think its been taken to new heights over the past decade….
@toolsman, let me answer your question cos rily i dont give a hoot wat another girl/does to enhance herself…for the guy, i like to know the guy before i date him n screw him…
so toolsman, what happens after the magic show?
1) you take her home, undress her and discover all the love handles, non-existent butt and breasts, you grit your teeth and do one fucnking round with all your anger and get home..you do not, i repeat, you DO NOT spend the night.
2)you undress her and she everything is as she represented and u do the ‘do’and then wake up and she looks like a crossbreed btn charliecharplin and bulldog, then you exchange pleasantries, dress up and leave while thinking of how to delete her number from your fone and avoid her llike the plague.
now peradventure, before you both hit the shack, you discovered a brain behind all the ”magic” and you want to follow it up, then i suggest you either never ever take off the ”accesories” or you kip her in bed, naked in her ”au-naturel” state…
iv got a quick qstn: does ”au-naturel” also mean ”au-naturel” down there?